The things I still dont understand are:
1. What happend when he got home? Did he get in trouble, or what?
2. Where is he at the end of the book?
3. Why is he there?
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Thursday, May 7, 2009
"Daddy's Going To Kill You..."
Phoebe kept telling Holden that daddy was going to kill him, and then she got mad at him because he got kick out of school...again. But she wasnt really mad at him, she felt disappointed in him, because she looks up to him. She was worried that daddy really was going to kill Holden, but moslty she felt like he wasnt even trying to fit in with the world, he just kept pushing it away more and more everytime, but each time its the same reason. "It full of phonies". Its time Holden trys to see the world in a different point of view, like Phoebe's. Maybe she will open him up to the world, since it seems that he really cares if she is upset with him or not. Maybe Phoebe is Holdens last chance to change. Will he take it?
* Dzeneta J.
* Dzeneta J.
Chapters 19-21
Holden loves Phoebe, even when she got upset with him, he still showed that he really did care about her. She is his second chance at being a big brother and he would never do anything to mess it up. Holden trys to connect to Phoebe by telling her why he got kicked out of another school, he trys to explane that he doesnt belong with people like that. Phoebe is significant to the book because throught the whole book, we hear about how she is a great person to talk to, she listens and about how much Holden loves her. She shows us that Holden isnt a bad person, but a lost person. And when he is with Phoebe he doesnt seem lost, he always seems to know what he wants. She shows us the other Holden.
*Dzeneta Jusufovic
*Dzeneta Jusufovic
Friday, May 1, 2009
The Ducks...
So I know we read about the ducks a long time ago...but on Tuesday when we were doing our group things, my group some how got on the ducks subject and what they really meant to Holden...If you dont know what I am talking about; its when Holden asked the two Taxi drivers were the ducks went in the winter.I think the reason he wanted to know was because ducks are always together; they fly together, they swim together, eat and so on. But Holden wants to feel that also, he wants to be able to be himself and still know that their is someone out their what will care about him, no matter what. He doesnt want to be alone but he wont give in and be like everyone else. I mean their is ducks that look different but they all still stay together.
-Dzeneta Jusufovic
Chapters 16-18...
"You ought to go to a boys' school sometime. Try it sometime."....."It's full of phoines and all you do is study so that you can learn enough to be smart enough to be able to buy a goddam Cadillac some day, and you have to keep making believe you give a damn of the football team loses, and all you do is talk about girls and liquor and sex all day, and everybody sticks together in these dirty little goddam cliques." -Holden (P.G. 131).
1. It says that Holden is sick of people act like what they arnt, and he doesnt like how money is the most importent thing to people. He doesnt want to be like other people...he doesnt want to be what others want him to be, he wants to be himself (even thought he is not sure what that is yet) but he knows its not going to a boys school and buying a Cadillac. He doesnt want to show off just to get a girlfriend or a friend, he wants someone that will respect him for who he is.
2.ALL teens are phoines in a way (yes even Holden). We all want to be something we arnt and we act like we know everything. We judge someone because they have less money or because they dont hang out with us. We thing of our selfs first then others around us. We also to act like what others wants us to act like or to be. We dont think before we talk or do something and we sure dont care after we hurt someones feels. This is stuff MOST of us grow out of as we become more adult like, but for some it stay that way forever.
3.It matters because Holden is always talking about people being phoines but I thing that in this passage we really see why he thinks that of people, and to me it showed a different side of him. Before I thought he just juged everyone but now I understand that he isnt really doing that, all he is doing is trying to not be like them, so to do that we tells himself(and us) all the bad thing about does people. He does it to protect himself for becoming something he isnt or wants to be.
-Dzeneta Jusufovic
1. It says that Holden is sick of people act like what they arnt, and he doesnt like how money is the most importent thing to people. He doesnt want to be like other people...he doesnt want to be what others want him to be, he wants to be himself (even thought he is not sure what that is yet) but he knows its not going to a boys school and buying a Cadillac. He doesnt want to show off just to get a girlfriend or a friend, he wants someone that will respect him for who he is.
2.ALL teens are phoines in a way (yes even Holden). We all want to be something we arnt and we act like we know everything. We judge someone because they have less money or because they dont hang out with us. We thing of our selfs first then others around us. We also to act like what others wants us to act like or to be. We dont think before we talk or do something and we sure dont care after we hurt someones feels. This is stuff MOST of us grow out of as we become more adult like, but for some it stay that way forever.
3.It matters because Holden is always talking about people being phoines but I thing that in this passage we really see why he thinks that of people, and to me it showed a different side of him. Before I thought he just juged everyone but now I understand that he isnt really doing that, all he is doing is trying to not be like them, so to do that we tells himself(and us) all the bad thing about does people. He does it to protect himself for becoming something he isnt or wants to be.
-Dzeneta Jusufovic
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