The End Of "The Catcher In The Rye"

The things I still dont understand are:

1. What happend when he got home? Did he get in trouble, or what?
2. Where is he at the end of the book?
3. Why is he there?

"Daddy's Going To Kill You..."

Phoebe kept telling Holden that daddy was going to kill him, and then she got mad at him because he got kick out of school...again. But she wasnt really mad at him, she felt disappointed in him, because she looks up to him. She was worried that daddy really was going to kill Holden, but moslty she felt like he wasnt even trying to fit in with the world, he just kept pushing it away more and more everytime, but each time its the same reason. "It full of phonies". Its time Holden trys to see the world in a different point of view, like Phoebe's. Maybe she will open him up to the world, since it seems that he really cares if she is upset with him or not. Maybe Phoebe is Holdens last chance to change. Will he take it?

* Dzeneta J.

Chapters 19-21

Holden loves Phoebe, even when she got upset with him, he still showed that he really did care about her. She is his second chance at being a big brother and he would never do anything to mess it up. Holden trys to connect to Phoebe by telling her why he got kicked out of another school, he trys to explane that he doesnt belong with people like that. Phoebe is significant to the book because throught the whole book, we hear about how she is a great person to talk to, she listens and about how much Holden loves her. She shows us that Holden isnt a bad person, but a lost person. And when he is with Phoebe he doesnt seem lost, he always seems to know what he wants. She shows us the other Holden.

*Dzeneta Jusufovic

The Ducks...

So I know we read about the ducks a long time ago...but on Tuesday when we were doing our group things, my group some how got on the ducks subject and what they really meant to Holden...If you dont know what I am talking about; its when Holden asked the two Taxi drivers were the ducks went in the winter.

I think the reason he wanted to know was because ducks are always together; they fly together, they swim together, eat and so on. But Holden wants to feel that also, he wants to be able to be himself and still know that their is someone out their what will care about him, no matter what. He doesnt want to be alone but he wont give in and be like everyone else. I mean their is ducks that look different but they all still stay together.

-Dzeneta Jusufovic

Chapters 16-18...

"You ought to go to a boys' school sometime. Try it sometime."....."It's full of phoines and all you do is study so that you can learn enough to be smart enough to be able to buy a goddam Cadillac some day, and you have to keep making believe you give a damn of the football team loses, and all you do is talk about girls and liquor and sex all day, and everybody sticks together in these dirty little goddam cliques." -Holden (P.G. 131).

1. It says that Holden is sick of people act like what they arnt, and he doesnt like how money is the most importent thing to people. He doesnt want to be like other people...he doesnt want to be what others want him to be, he wants to be himself (even thought he is not sure what that is yet) but he knows its not going to a boys school and buying a Cadillac. He doesnt want to show off just to get a girlfriend or a friend, he wants someone that will respect him for who he is.

2.ALL teens are phoines in a way (yes even Holden). We all want to be something we arnt and we act like we know everything. We judge someone because they have less money or because they dont hang out with us. We thing of our selfs first then others around us. We also to act like what others wants us to act like or to be. We dont think before we talk or do something and we sure dont care after we hurt someones feels. This is stuff MOST of us grow out of as we become more adult like, but for some it stay that way forever.

3.It matters because Holden is always talking about people being phoines but I thing that in this passage we really see why he thinks that of people, and to me it showed a different side of him. Before I thought he just juged everyone but now I understand that he isnt really doing that, all he is doing is trying to not be like them, so to do that we tells himself(and us) all the bad thing about does people. He does it to protect himself for becoming something he isnt or wants to be.

-Dzeneta Jusufovic

We All Go Through...

I think that we all go through what Holden is going through. We all want to grow up so fast and then when we get their we are like "I want to go back"...Holden doesnt want people telling him want to do in life, or to do better in school but yet he does. Holden is one of does people that act like they dont care but they really do care, he cares about what he does, and what kind of grades he has, he just wants to seem like he doesnt care so that he can seem older. I am not sure were he got the idea that adults dont care about what they do or act like, cause he is wrong. Adult care as much as teens do, they care about their looks, the way they talk, and about the things they do. Holden keeps calling other people "phonies" but really he is the biggest one of them all...

I understand were he is coming from: I hate it when people tell me what to do over and over, or when they ask me if I get something, after I say "yes" 1,000 times. When people do that to me, I then end up not doing what they told me to do or I mess it up because I get mad and I dont care. I think Holden is the same way, he would like to do better but people keep telling him he needs to do better that he then doesnt do better. I also think that Holden is one of does kids that no one believes in, and then people tell him that he wont get anywere in life; so then he dont try.

-Dzeneta Jusufovic

Chapter 9-11

Holden would like to be a child and get away with stuff like getting kicked out of school, but then he would also like to be an adult and get alcohol because he thinks that just cause he is tall and has some gray hairs that he would be able to get away with anything...I think he is starting to see that the world isnt a easy place to live and he really would like to call someone and tell them what is going on but everyone he things of he either calls them "phonies" or doesnt want his mom and dad to find out. But we learn that he has a little sister and he talks about her like she is the best thing in the world and it makes me think of the time he was talking about Allie, and all the things he says about her make her seem kinda like Allie. Holden cares about his sister and he did care about Allie, I am not sure if he cares about his older brother yet, but he those seem to this like his parents a little. I think he would like to go home but then he would also like to be on his own and clear his head. Holden right now has two personalities: he would like to go home and take back what he did, and that part of him still wants to be a kid. Then he also wants to live alone, drink, and dance with girls that he calls ugly over and over again.

I am turning 16 this Sunday and I really dont want to. If I could I would go back to being 2 or 3, when I had people to care for me and I didnt have to care for myself and other people too. When all I had to do was sleep, eat and play; now it seems like the older I get more new people come into my life (some I like and some not so much) and then the people I knew are leaving or I'm leaving. I also feel like the older I get the more I have to live up to what others want me to be, and I get lost between what I want for myself and what other want for me, and it doesnt help much when I am making planes for my brother and sister's future, cause it scares me that one day I will be the one that is fully responsible for them and the fact that I dont know when that day is scares me even more cause I am not ready for that, and sometimes it makes me wish that I wasnt the oldest, and that I had an older brother or sister to help me. But then again I am glad that I will be their for my brother and sister to help them.

-Dzeneta J.